Leaving the city of MEN for the sunny shores of the city of Angels, was by no means an easy task. It required extensive research and rigorous planning. The main aspects we looked at were those rationalized as must-haves for men with high DRIVES about beautiful women when deciding upon a place to live: namely, quality, quantity and access. Comparing Torontostan to Los Angeles in all three categories would make for a very one-sided argument. However, here's our initial rough draft comparative analysis of dating/sexapades in the two urban centres...
Quality:
Quality:
Most of the wannabe actresses, models, porn stars or other entertainment girls move to LA at the very least at some point during their lives. They rarely leave. This has a two-fold effect. First, it automatically increases the quality of hot babes in the area. Secondly, and more importantly, it keeps the local Angelinas on their toes with regard to keeping in shape, getting their tan on and looking good. Looks wise girls here are at the very least 2-2.5 points higher on the look-barometer scale when compared to Toronto talent(and I'm being very generous to the latter). As the pics above demonstrate: While the girls on bottom pic (Toronto) are all attractive, they would never be considered TOP quality in L.A. PERFECTION TAKES A WHOLE OTHER MEANING HERE. If you look closely at the two pictures....The girls on the top pic are head-to-toe hot and they are not even top quality. We all know that clubs/lounges/special events etc pay agencies (modelling/hostess/staffing) to deliver attractive girls to walk around, greet customers and perform 'service' tasks (bottle service). In Toronto they occasionally brought a few models on top of their existing staff which made places appear less dead/sausage fests than they actually were. To put things in perspective, the staff girls here outshine the models there by a large margin. On top of all this, playmates, pornstars and other models juggle around like its their day off. A lot of the girls we see simply do not exist back home. Does this mean you'll be seen banging all these women? Of course not. But it raises the bar when it comes to who's hot, what a 9 or 10 is and who should be given the most/less attention.
Quantity:
Yes T-Dot does have a few hotties, but you only notice them more since there's so few of them around. Consequently, they would appear even hotter than they actually were. This is not just a supposition but an actual fact. Walking on King or Queen st on a Saturday afternoon, I would go back to my flat and remember intimately the hottest girl I saw on the street. I cannot do the same here at the third promenade, SM (just one example). Reason? Because there's simply too many!!
Access:
Yes T-Dot does have a few hotties, but you only notice them more since there's so few of them around. Consequently, they would appear even hotter than they actually were. This is not just a supposition but an actual fact. Walking on King or Queen st on a Saturday afternoon, I would go back to my flat and remember intimately the hottest girl I saw on the street. I cannot do the same here at the third promenade, SM (just one example). Reason? Because there's simply too many!!
Access:
Granted the city of Angels is the city of hell when it comes to logistics. Location, Location, Location, does not really work here. Bars, clubs, lounges, restaurants, day game places are everywhere. The greater LA area itself is a collection of several cities and each one has its own unique settings, locales and fun pick up joints. CAR IS A MUST.
What I've found fascinating, however, is that you can walk into just about any place that serves drinks and sit at a bar, sooner or later a girl or two would appear near you. You can initiate convo (recommended in most cases) as people don't look at you and judge like they did in Toronto. This part is very important due to the discrimination a single guy with a high DRIVE got in T-Dot if he was seen alone trying to chat up women at restaurant bars.
In addition, you see very few girls with headphones on during the day time or large shades on their faces (even though its always sunny here). Clearly not trying to hide anything, which means they are not getting hit on constantly every time they leave their place. Women here love to dress sexy. You have to look very hard to see a woman without high heels (beach cities exempted).
GAME:
Girls will generally not be rude and run away when approached, which happened a lot in T-Dot. Opening does not seem to be a problem. I had to adjust my mid-game initially because I was simply over-gaming.
CLUBS:
Clubs in LA are expensive but worth it if you can afford it. The quality is through the roof.
BARS:
While they are different depending on your style, music tastes etc, again, almost incomparable to T-Dot.
First of all, I have yet to see a pure Irish/British style pub. There are very few and girls/guys prefer cocktails over beer generally. Ratios in general are not favourable. The environment, however, is not tense at all and there's a lot of room to manoeuvre. Simply put, me and my wingman seem to be the only ones that are looking or staring when a hot girl walks in cause we are still not used to it. Flashback to T-Dot ....hot girl walks in, every guy at the bar including the ones on dates and the staff is looking....well, more like leering. That girl would be a sub-par Los Angeles online bang.
Online Dating:
I was actually AFRAID to put my profile online in Toronto as it would probably interfere with my own self esteem/health and really make me depressed at not only the low quality (looks/sanity level) but also the rude comments and hyper-feminist behaviour of the 'local' girls. A girl that has many men after her, purchasing bottle service and invite her into 'exclusive' condo parties in Toronto is on pof in LA and can be pressured to meet up at a Cafe the next day.
The word 'creep' has yet to make an official appearance during my interactions with many women here. The reason is, there is a lot of 'different' people in the LA area. Girls are bombarded by cock/photoshoped photos, have been on a date with a guy that's 30 years older than his profile, a guy that is wearing an ankle bracelet (due to a court order), a local porn producer trying to put her on film etc. Hence, the term 'creep' here takes on a whole new meaning, unlike the meaning back home (any men that wants to fuck).
Speed-Dating:
Tried the same company: FastLife in both cities: Results: Kind of embarrassing here as the guys speed-dating looked and talked like the gang of the Big Bang Theory. The girls were bangable. In Toronto, I remember having some serious competition with only two of the 18 girls showing up being bangable.
Dating in general:
Whereas in Toronto, girls looked at dating as either a huge jump into a serious relationship or flaked in numbers, girls here...simply put...KNOW HOW TO DATE. They know how to flirt, what to say, how to date. It hurts me to talk about this, as no one feels good by thrashing their own city, but schools teaching seduction/flirting to women must go up there (call it a stimulus plan to regenerate the Ontario Economy).
Girls are available to meet when you get their number and rarely flake. They take their time and are not rushed into starting a relationship any time soon. Given the competition of so many hot women, fast access to other friendly cities, San Diego, Las Vegas and a general chilled, relaxed 'live and let live' attitude it feels like just about anything is possible.
What I've found fascinating, however, is that you can walk into just about any place that serves drinks and sit at a bar, sooner or later a girl or two would appear near you. You can initiate convo (recommended in most cases) as people don't look at you and judge like they did in Toronto. This part is very important due to the discrimination a single guy with a high DRIVE got in T-Dot if he was seen alone trying to chat up women at restaurant bars.
In addition, you see very few girls with headphones on during the day time or large shades on their faces (even though its always sunny here). Clearly not trying to hide anything, which means they are not getting hit on constantly every time they leave their place. Women here love to dress sexy. You have to look very hard to see a woman without high heels (beach cities exempted).
GAME:
Girls will generally not be rude and run away when approached, which happened a lot in T-Dot. Opening does not seem to be a problem. I had to adjust my mid-game initially because I was simply over-gaming.
CLUBS:
Clubs in LA are expensive but worth it if you can afford it. The quality is through the roof.
BARS:
While they are different depending on your style, music tastes etc, again, almost incomparable to T-Dot.
First of all, I have yet to see a pure Irish/British style pub. There are very few and girls/guys prefer cocktails over beer generally. Ratios in general are not favourable. The environment, however, is not tense at all and there's a lot of room to manoeuvre. Simply put, me and my wingman seem to be the only ones that are looking or staring when a hot girl walks in cause we are still not used to it. Flashback to T-Dot ....hot girl walks in, every guy at the bar including the ones on dates and the staff is looking....well, more like leering. That girl would be a sub-par Los Angeles online bang.
Online Dating:
I was actually AFRAID to put my profile online in Toronto as it would probably interfere with my own self esteem/health and really make me depressed at not only the low quality (looks/sanity level) but also the rude comments and hyper-feminist behaviour of the 'local' girls. A girl that has many men after her, purchasing bottle service and invite her into 'exclusive' condo parties in Toronto is on pof in LA and can be pressured to meet up at a Cafe the next day.
The word 'creep' has yet to make an official appearance during my interactions with many women here. The reason is, there is a lot of 'different' people in the LA area. Girls are bombarded by cock/photoshoped photos, have been on a date with a guy that's 30 years older than his profile, a guy that is wearing an ankle bracelet (due to a court order), a local porn producer trying to put her on film etc. Hence, the term 'creep' here takes on a whole new meaning, unlike the meaning back home (any men that wants to fuck).
Speed-Dating:
Tried the same company: FastLife in both cities: Results: Kind of embarrassing here as the guys speed-dating looked and talked like the gang of the Big Bang Theory. The girls were bangable. In Toronto, I remember having some serious competition with only two of the 18 girls showing up being bangable.
Dating in general:
Whereas in Toronto, girls looked at dating as either a huge jump into a serious relationship or flaked in numbers, girls here...simply put...KNOW HOW TO DATE. They know how to flirt, what to say, how to date. It hurts me to talk about this, as no one feels good by thrashing their own city, but schools teaching seduction/flirting to women must go up there (call it a stimulus plan to regenerate the Ontario Economy).
Girls are available to meet when you get their number and rarely flake. They take their time and are not rushed into starting a relationship any time soon. Given the competition of so many hot women, fast access to other friendly cities, San Diego, Las Vegas and a general chilled, relaxed 'live and let live' attitude it feels like just about anything is possible.
Sex:
Sexual intercourse is not a big deal in Los Angeles. Many and I mean MANY women are not afraid to say they have a FWB. It's not seen as a negative. You don't really have to put much effort into 'gaming' if sex is what you are looking for (works best at dive bars). Increasing your sexual escalation early on is recommended however, as due to the nature of the city's logistics problem once you meet and have a good time but don't close, you just never know when you will meet again...
Sexual intercourse is not a big deal in Los Angeles. Many and I mean MANY women are not afraid to say they have a FWB. It's not seen as a negative. You don't really have to put much effort into 'gaming' if sex is what you are looking for (works best at dive bars). Increasing your sexual escalation early on is recommended however, as due to the nature of the city's logistics problem once you meet and have a good time but don't close, you just never know when you will meet again...
In conclusion, the problems that exist in Toronto exist in LA as well. But to a FAR FAR lesser degree. Some women will always be attention whores, unreasonable or simply just insane. Hot girls will always act like hot girls etc...BUT 7s and 8s should act like 7s and 8s. And 5s and 6s should stay home and hug their teddy bears!
These are just some preliminary points. Problems/areas of improvement associated with LA and the Socal area will be discussed at a Blog I'm currently working on.
These are just some preliminary points. Problems/areas of improvement associated with LA and the Socal area will be discussed at a Blog I'm currently working on.
